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Obama’s Global Tax Proposal Up for Senate Vote
AIM Column | By Cliff Kincaid | February 12, 2008
It appears the Senate version is being pushed not only by Biden and Obama, a member of the committee, but Lugar, the ranking Republican member.
A nice-sounding bill called the "Global Poverty Act," sponsored by Democratic presidential candidate and Senator Barack Obama, is up for a Senate vote on Thursday and could result in the imposition of a global tax on the United States. The bill, which has the support of many liberal religious groups, makes levels of U.S. foreign aid spending subservient to the dictates of the United Nations.
Senator Joe Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, has not endorsed either Senator Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton in the presidential race. But on Thursday, February 14, he is trying to rush Obama's "Global Poverty Act" (S.2433) through his committee. The legislation would commit the U.S. to spending 0.7 percent of gross national product on foreign aid, which amounts to a phenomenal 13-year total of $845 billion over and above what the U.S. already spends.
The bill, which is item number four on the committee's business meeting agenda, passed the House by a voice vote last year because most members didn't realize what was in it. Congressional sponsors have been careful not to calculate the amount of foreign aid spending that it would require. According to the website of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, no hearings have been held on the Obama bill in that body.
A release from the Obama Senate office about the bill declares, "In 2000, the U.S. joined more than 180 countries at the United Nations Millennium Summit and vowed to reduce global poverty by 2015. We are halfway towards this deadline, and it is time the United States makes it a priority of our foreign policy to meet this goal and help those who are struggling day to day."
The legislation itself requires the President "to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day."
The bill defines the term "Millennium Development Goals" as the goals set out in the United Nations Millennium Declaration, General Assembly Resolution 55/2 (2000).
The U.N. says that "The commitment to provide 0.7% of gross national product (GNP) as official development assistance was first made 35 years ago in a General Assembly resolution, but it has been reaffirmed repeatedly over the years, including at the 2002 global Financing for Development conference in Monterrey, Mexico. However, in 2004, total aid from the industrialized countries totaled just $78.6 billion-or about 0.25% of their collective GNP."
In addition to seeking to eradicate poverty, that declaration commits nations to banning "small arms and light weapons" and ratifying a series of treaties, including the International Criminal Court Treaty, the Kyoto Protocol (global warming treaty), the Convention on Biological Diversity, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, and the Convention on the Rights of the Child.
The Millennium Declaration also affirms the U.N. as "the indispensable common house of the entire human family, through which we will seek to realize our universal aspirations for peace, cooperation and development."
Jeffrey Sachs, who runs the U.N.'s "Millennium Project," says that the U.N. plan to force the U.S. to pay 0.7 percent of GNP in increased foreign aid spending would add $65 billion a year to what the U.S. already spends. Over a 13-year period, from 2002, when the U.N.'s Financing for Development conference was held, to the target year of 2015, when the U.S. is expected to meet the "Millennium Development Goals," this amounts to $845 billion. And the only way to raise that kind of money, Sachs has written, is through a global tax, preferably on carbon-emitting fossil fuels.
Obama's bill has only six co-sponsors. They are Senators Maria Cantwell, Dianne Feinstein, Richard Lugar, Richard Durbin, Chuck Hagel and Robert Menendez. But it appears that Biden and Obama see passage of this bill as a way to highlight Democratic Party priorities in the Senate.
The House version (H.R. 1302), sponsored by Rep. Adam Smith (D-Wash.), had only 84 co-sponsors before it was suddenly brought up on the House floor last September 25 and was passed by voice vote. House Republicans were caught off-guard, unaware that the pro-U.N. measure committed the U.S. to spending hundreds of billions of dollars.
It appears the Senate version is being pushed not only by Biden and Obama, a member of the committee, but Lugar, the ranking Republican member. Lugar has worked with Obama in the past to promote more foreign aid for Russia, supposedly to stem nuclear proliferation, and has become Obama's mentor. Like Biden, Lugar is a globalist. They have both promoted passage of the U.N.'s Law of the Sea Treaty, for example.
The so-called "Lugar-Obama initiative" was modeled after the Nunn-Lugar program, also known as the Cooperative Threat Reduction (CTR) program, which was designed to eliminate weapons of mass destruction in the former Soviet Union. But one defense analyst, Rich Kelly, noted evidence that "CTR funds have eased the Russian military's budgetary woes, freeing resources for such initiatives as the war in Chechnya and defense modernization." He recommended that Congress "eliminate CTR funding so that it does not finance additional, perhaps more threatening, programs in the former Soviet Union." However, over $6 billion has already been spent on the program.
Another program modeled on Nunn-Lugar, the Initiatives for Proliferation Prevention (IPP), was recently exposed as having funded nuclear projects in Iran through Russia.
More foreign aid through passage of the Global Poverty Act was identified as one of the strategic goals of InterAction, the alliance of U.S-based international non-governmental organizations that lobbies for more foreign aid. The group is heavily financed by the U.S. Government, having received $1.4 million from taxpayers in fiscal year 2005 and $1.7 million in 2006. However, InterAction recently issued a report accusing the United States of "falling short on its commitment to rid the world of dire poverty by 2015 under the U.N. Millennium Development Goals..."
It's not clear what President Bush would do if the bill passes the Senate. The bill itself quotes Bush as declaring that "We fight against poverty because opportunity is a fundamental right to human dignity." Bush's former top aide, Michael J. Gerson, writes in his new book, Heroic Conservatism, that Bush should be remembered as the President who "sponsored the largest percentage increases in foreign assistance since the Marshall Plan..."
Even these increases, however, will not be enough to satisfy the requirements of the Obama bill. A global tax will clearly be necessary to force American taxpayers to provide the money.
* Americans who would like their senators to know what they are voting on can contact them through information at this official Senate site.
Cliff Kincaid is the Editor of the AIM Report and can be reached at cliff.kincaid@aim.org
Comments 177 Comments
Sherril
April 25 at 3:19 am | #1 | Link
Let’s try this seceniro: Louis Farrakhan, leader of the Nation of Islam has said about Obama: “We are witnessing the phenomenal rise of a man of color in a country that has persecuted us because of our color. This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better. Comparing
Fard Muhammad, founder of the Islam Nation to Obama: A black man with a white mother became a savior to us. A black man with a white mother could turn out to be one who can lift America from her fall.”
Now we have the Proverty Act of 2007 which has passed the Senate and the House and is awaiting the signature of the President. What would happen to the Bill if the President dose not sign it? After so long it would become law. If and when Obama is sworn in as President he would be seen as the Savior of the World. Right? Look and see just how much aid and assistance Kenya has asked for. I believe it is something like 27 BILLION DOLLARS. And who is the man trying to over throw the government of Kenya. Why it is Obama’s cousin Raile Odinga. Where do you think we might all be headed by to a sad state of affairs just like the Kenyans are. Read all of the Proverty Act.
(4) MILLENNIUM DEVELOPMENT GOALS- The term `Millennium Development Goals’ means the goals set out in the United Nations Millennium Declaration, General Assembly Resolution 55/2 (2000).
United Nations Millennium Declaration:
II. Peace, security and disarmament
• To ensure the implementation, by States Parties, of treaties in areas such as arms control and disarmament and of international humanitarian law and human rights law, and call upon all States to consider signing and
ratifying the Rome Statute of the Intnl Criminal Court.
• To take concerted action to end illicit traffic in small arms and light weapons, especially by making arms transfers more transparent and supporting regional disarmament measures, taking account of all the recommendations of the forthcoming United Nations Conference on Illicit
Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons.
LET THE BUYER BEWARE AND WATCH WHO YOU VOTE FOR
SC
April 28 at 2:26 am | #2 | Link
I agree with the comment from Sherril above and I am dismayed by the lack of any other comments here. The American People better wake up before we elect this man, we will surely end up with alot more taxes on us and “buyer’s remorse”.
Sherril
April 28 at 2:33 am | #3 | Link
UPDATED FROM SHERRIL 4/27/08
WE NEED TO KEEP MONEY AT HOME ACCORDING to DEAN
I was watching Howard Dean on “Meet the Press” this morning. He said that Americans were tired of the war and expense of that war; that we need the money here at home for the people. Well, does he really mean that? What about Afghanistan and Pakistan?
Barack Obama just had his Poverty Act of 2007, Senate Bill # 2433, rammed through the United States Senate by his cohort and supporter, Joe Biden. It was scheduled for Senate debate on April 24, 2008. Senator Obama was the person that introduced the bill on December 7, 2007. It had already passed the House on September 27, 2007. This Bill was tried in 109th Congress and died in committee.
So what you say. Well, here’s what. Not one person has talked about this giveaway piece of legislation awaiting President Bush’s signature, and believe me, he will sign it as a “Humanitarian” thing to do.
Let’s break this bill down. It is called the POVERTY ACT OF 2007, for those of you who would like to look it up. It gives to the United Nations $ 845,000,000,000, yes BILLION, for the purpose of increasing the daily cost of living from $1.00 to $2.00 dollars a day for the people of the African countries, such as Kenya, yes Obama’s Kenya, Tanzania, Darfur, Sudan, Mongolia, etc. That computes to about $280.00 for every American man, woman, and child. It also says that the United Nations can impose a tax on the citizens of the United States to make this happen.
• (Please keep in mind this is in addition to money that has already been pledged and given by the Unites Sates government (WE THE PEOPLE) to these and other African countries. President Bush had founded something called the Millennium Challenge Corporation and on his 6 day trip to Africa on February 17, 2008, he promised in Tanzania another $700,000,000 in aid. Finally, the President stated that “We have confronted, and will continue to confront, HIV/AIDS in our own country”, proposing now that the United States should lead the world in sparing innocent people from a plague of nature, and asking Congress “to commit $15,000,000,000 over the next five years, including nearly $10,000,000,000 in new money, to turn the tide against AIDS in the most afflicted nations of Africa and the Caribbean”. )
This Senate Bill that is set to become law does something that is very well hidden. The last part of the Bill refers to the to the # 4“UNITED NATIONS MILLENNIUM DEVELOPMENT GOALS.” The term `Millennium Development Goals’ means the goals set out in the United Nations Millennium Declaration, General Assembly Resolution (5/2/ 2000)
Okay, now lets understand what this actually means to the American People.
In this Act:
(1) APPROPRIATE CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEES- The term `appropriate congressional committees’ means—
(A) the Committee on Foreign Relations and the Committee on Appropriations of the Senate; and
(B) the Committee on Foreign Affairs and the Committee on Appropriations of the House of Representatives.
(2) EXTREME GLOBAL POVERTY- The term `extreme global poverty’ refers to the conditions in which individuals live on less than $1 per day, adjusted for purchasing power parity in 1993 United States dollars, according to World Bank statistics.
(3) GLOBAL POVERTY- The term `global poverty’ refers to the conditions in which individuals live on less than $2 per day, adjusted for purchasing power parity in 1993 United States dollars, according to World Bank statistics.
There’s nothing really BAD here and Congress will protect us from anything not in our best interest. Yes, they just voted to pass this Bill into law, so they will protect us!!!?
This is where it really gets good. Please pay attention…...(Look at # 4 above.)
Inside that little jewel is a Section II; Peace, Security, and DISARMAMENT!!!!!
It states that:
• To ensure the implementation, by States Parties, of treaties in areas such as arms control and disarmament and of international humanitarian law and human rights law, and calls upon all States to consider signing and ratifying the “Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court.”
• To take concerted action to end illicit traffic in small arms and light weapons, especially by making arms transfers more transparent and supporting regional disarmament measures, taking account of all the recommendations of the forthcoming United Nations Conference on Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons.
The regional disarmament are was not specified any place that I could find, SO IT COULD MEAN THE UNITED STATES. AND CONGRESS WILL PROTECT US!!
SO LET’S KEEP THE MONEY HOME FOR OUR PEOPLE, MR. DEAN?
Please do not get me wrong, as I am for helping people that need our help, but first and foremost I an for helping the American people that are living in squalor, on the streets and in cars; for helping children that go to bed hungry and seniors that that eat Cat food to survive; for helping people to recoup from disasters such as Katrina, the floods and tornados in the Midwest; California wildfires; etc.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FIRST.
SC
April 28 at 2:57 am | #4 | Link
Dear Sherril: I just read your update above and agree that Pres. Bush will sign this bill. The American People don’t pay attn to anything important that will affect us in the future. The war in Iraq was pushed on the American People by the Media & George Bush. It has obviously been a big mistake. Now we have this bill, the Global Poverty UN Tax. If this Obama gets elected we will have alot more to worry about. I just spent the last few hours reading about the history of colonialism in Africa, also slavery on Wikipedia. I wonder how many people are aware that the Africans themselves would war amongst themselves and take the P.O.W.‘s to the coasts to sell them to the slave traders. Also the entire continent was colonized by European countries carving up the continent amongst themselves. Now that the Europeans were kicked out, the whole continent has decended into the African tribes killing each other and dictators taking over, rape & genocide. When the U.S. does finally leave Iraq, the same thing will probably happen to that country. What a disaster. And now the American people are paying for it dearly. Also, I can’t believe no one else is commenting on this tax here. I have been going to Youtube videos that feature Obama (alot of 20 yr old kids go on youtube for their info) and basically putting the info you have above into a short paragraph to wake them up (hopefully)in the comments below. They are hypnotized by Obama. Also, look at the other 2 choices, Hillary (whose husband bombed the Serbs look that up on Youtube) he also pardoned FALN TERRORISTS. and John “clueless” McCain. there is also a new website dontvoteobama.net you should look at. Spread the word.
whitney
April 29 at 11:55 pm | #5 | Link
I must be dreaming. Would someone PLEASE GET HUSSIN OBAMA OUT OF HERE AND SENd HIM TO China or the North Pole.
My Tax dollars STAY HERE IN THE GOOD OLE USA!!!!!
whitney
April 30 at 12:05 am | #6 | Link
Katrina, today news Virgina tornato’s. earthquake in Ill., just heard earthquake in Northern Ca. USA HELP USA FIRST FOR OUR PEOPLE< BY OUR PEOPLE< FOT OUR PEOPLE!!
Robert
April 30 at 7:38 pm | #7 | Link
if you idiots want to blame obama for this when you should really be blaming your own stupid asses for being fooled by bush TWICE. if it wasn’t for bush’s outrageously awful spending (AND need i remind you that TENS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS SENT TO IRAQ ARE MISSING), we wouldn’t even be thinking of this. what a difference 8 years makes when your president is a bumbling moron with a corrupt cabinet full of old family friends! congratulations america you are currently at rock bottom. enjoy the taste of your own piss.
Earl and Evelyn Krug
April 30 at 9:43 pm | #8 | Link
I certainly hope you will not sponsor this “GLOBAL POVERTY ACT” bill as taxpayers, we are tired of our dollars leaving this country.
It is time our tax dollars stay here in the USA
Sherril
April 30 at 11:40 pm | #9 | Link
TO THE KRUGS; THERE IS NOTHING TO SPONSER ANYMORE.
IF PRESIDENT BUSH SIGNS IT THEN IT WILL BE LAW.
IF HE DOES NOT SIGN IT THEN IT WILL STILL BECOME LAW
WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.
THE ONLY WAY ONE CAN HOPE TO STOP THIS MONSTER NOW IS
TO SEND PRESIDENT BUSH A LETTER URGING HIM TO VETO THE BILL. A VETO IS ALL THAT WILL STOP IT UNLESS
CONGRESS OVER RIDES IT. IT MUST BE VETOED.
Steve C.
May 1 at 9:34 am | #10 | Link
Does anyone on here have a clue? The protectionist statements voiced my Sherril and many others on this site are short-sighted. Globalization has taken effect. We cannot put our head under the covers and hope the rest of the world goes away! Many of our business leaders have begun to recognize this. Look at the financial numbers. Most American based firms generate 2-3% of revenues from domestic sales, while international revenues are in the range of 10-15%. What does this tell you? It says that America’s growth is slowing. It tells you that the rest of the world is rising, to the detriment (economically perhaps, and politically for sure) of the U.S. I have not read the specifics on this bill - but i pose these questions:
1) How can a bill that makes the transfers of small arms and light weaponry more transparent be a bad thing?
2) How can elevating the living standards of hundreds of millions of people be a bad thing?
Our country was founded on the principals of an open market economy, religious freedom, open immigration policies, etc. Now, you are arguing that we should close our border and decrease our funding to developing nations (i understand this bill increases our monetary obligations, and there is no bill currently in the house or senate that decreases U.S. foreign Aid. However, when you take into account global population growth, if we don’t increase our total foreign Aid, we are in effect reducing the Aid per capita in developing countries!)
So i ask each of you on this site, do we want/need a return to protectionism? Or do we need to open our borders and markets even further, after all, these two forces are what has made our great nation the envy of the world (at least until 2000!)?
ps
May 1 at 11:54 am | #11 | Link
I’d say ... a little nuttier than a fruit cake!
Dave D
May 1 at 2:04 pm | #12 | Link
Yes Steve, we all have a clue. Perhaps I can give you one right now. No one here
so far has said a word about not helping other nations with aid. There hasn’t been
a single disaster in this world that our great country hasn’t sent aid. Generally, we
give more aid than any other country. How much foreign aid came to New Orleans
or to the mid-west during the last great floods or to any of the massive fires we’ve
endured in the western US? Can anyone say “NADA?” as in nada dime?
The issue here is NOT about what our responsibilities to this world are. Ask yourself
how you would feel sitting in your Church when the plate comes around and you put in
a generous amount…only to have someone tell you THEY think it’s not enough and try
to force you to put in what THEY feel they want from you. I’d be willing to bet you’d
quickly find another church. The bill also give the UN the power to force more out of
us in the future.
“How can a bill that makes the transfers of small arms and light weaponry more
transparent be a bad thing?” This is a wonderful thing….but that is not the issue.
This is the beginning of the end of the Second Amendment.
I don’t know about the state you live in, but the Lottery was established under the guise
of 50% would go to education, but today most of it supports building and maintaining the
privately owned sports complexes of professional teams while the state continues to cut
spending on education.
This small arms portion puts us under direct control of any changes made later by the UN.
Believe me, changes WILL be made. The LOST treaty is the same. Both make bold
(on the surface) but palatable statements but the underlying power will be crippling.
You are correct when you say we have our heads under the covers or this bill would never
have passed. Too many Americans get all their news from sound bites at Yahoo, MSN, etc,
but don’t take the time to actually pay attention to the REAL news. Brittney shaving her
head is NOT news. THIS is news. This affects the way we live.
As a final note, if you are willing to take your own head out of your…covers, here are some
more provisions of the bill:
1. currency transfer tax, that is, a tax imposed on companies and individuals who must exchange dollars for foreign currency;
2. tax on the rental value of land and natural resources;
3. royalty on worldwide fossil energy projection—oil, natural gas, coal;
4. fees for the commercial use of the oceans,
fees for airplane use of the skies,
fees for use of the electromagnetic spectrum,
fees on foreign exchange transactions,
and a tax on the carbon content of fuels.”
5. standing peace force, meaning a standing United Nations army that might, in time, be large enough to force us to bend to its will;
6. the “eradication of poverty” by the “redistribution [of] wealth and land”
How do you suppose the United Nations expects to “redistribute” the land and the wealth?
And what country do you think the third-world majority will go after first?
7. cancellation of “the debts of developing countries,”
8. a fair distribution of the earth’s resources. and finally,
9. political control of the global economy.
Many of these same “fees” and policies are contained in the LOST treaty.
Steve C.
May 1 at 3:26 pm | #13 | Link
Dave,
Get a clue yourself and research the facts. We turned down military and economic aid from Mexico, yes Mexico in regards to Katrina and Rita. Mexican President Vicente Fox had an economic aid package approved and passed within 72 hours to help the Katrina refugees. He had also mobilized 5,000 members of the mexican army. So as far as other countries offering “nada”, that is a complete falsehood. Our arrogance prevented us from accepting help at a time when our friends in D.C. couldn’t get out of their own way (“Way to go Brownie!”)
Since your bring up the 2nd amendment, have you ever read it? I’m guessing not. And i quote “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” Now i don’t know about you, but i’m not so sure that the 2nd amendment affords us the rights we think it has. And if you are going to give me the argument that our supreme court has interpreted the law to mean that every citizen has the individual right to bear arms, you would be incorrect. Prior to the most recent 2nd amendment case (from D.C. which the courts have not ruled upon), the supreme court has heard exactly five cases as they relate to the 2nd amendment. U.S. v. Crukshank (definitely misspelled) did not deal with an individuals’ right to bear arms and neither have any of the four subsequent cases to be heard.
Dave, thank you for enlightening me about the other provisions of this bill. As i said, i have not read the bill (either the house or senate version) in it’s entirety.
Perhaps this conversation should be approached from a different angle. Do you still see the U.S. as the world’s dominant political, economic, and military superpower in 10, 20, even 50 years? America has begun a slow precipitous decline, (point of note here, since i have not read the bill, i am not arguing for or against it; i am arguing that the comments on this page are protectionist, short-sighted and will hurt America domestically and internationally), and the sooner the public wakes up and realizes that we will no longer be able to exert our will amongst nation-states, as we have done for the last two decades! We are entering an era of global economic success, the likes of which the earth has never seen before. Economics 101 will tell you that the growth of wealth is not a zero sum game, but political growth is a zero sum game, meaning that as other countries rise in geo-political prominence (China, India, South Africa, Brazil, Russia, etc.) our role as world leader and “super cop” will be greatly diminished. I am not Chicken Little “the sky is falling, the sky is falling”. I am saying that we are entering a time of unprecedented economic global growth, and unless the U.S. public and by extension government, recognize this and decide to deal with it diplomatically, we will be relegated to “has-been” status. Yes, has-been’s, just as the British are has-been’s on the world stage today. The primary reason for British world legitamacy is their uber-close relationship with the U.S. I am not trying to belittle or undermine the British, merely trying to illustrate the point that we will not have a global superpower to glom onto as the British did with the U.S. We will be operating in an economy and geo-political environment with two, three, maybe even four or five “significant powers”; none of which will be on par with the U.S. militarily and economically, but will have more geo-political influence than ever before. Why is that significant? For a thousand different reasons, but one stands out in my mind - “water rights”. We have already seen regional wars break out in Africa and Southeast Asia over water rights to one degree or another.
Let’s tackle your list of items listed above:
1) this seems excessive and would impede global economic growth, so based on what you have written, i would want it removed from the bill.
2) we have been paying taxes on our land my entire lifetime (Property taxes, school taxes - I live in Pennsylvania).
3) we should have institued a tax long ago on fossil fuel production. Perhaps than we would have more time to deal with global warming!!!
4) again, should have been doing this since the 70’s - perhaps we wouldn’t be so dependent on foreign oil today!!! We are over-fishing our oceans and polluting our oceans and skies. We will not be able to live in another few hundred years if we don’t address these environmental concerns!!!
5)What we have today is a military monopoly! I bet you don’t like when anyone has an opposing view either. Balance is key to stability (see the growth of the world economy during the cold war) and an opposing military force strong enough to take on the U.S. is essential (perhaps we would have thought twice about invading Iraq if there were military repercussions for us).
6) I would expect the U.N. to look at attempts to redistribute land the way it was done in Rhodesia and see that it failed miserably. I would expect a well thought intelligent decision on land/wealth redistribution - Again, i don’t pass judgment on things until i see the details, none of which you provided, except your fear-mongering statements.
7) We/other developed nations have been cancelling debt for decades (for proof see Afghanistan in recent years or Japan and Germany after World War II - remember High School History class - The Marshall Plan…)
8) again, #8 is bad because….?
9) you can’t cede political control of the economy by passing a bill in the U.S. I don’t think even you believe that could possible happen in today’s environment.
Dave, you present several well-thought reasoned arguments. But the underlying basis of each is protectionist!!! Again, this is short-sighted and will only succed in crippling America in the long term!!!!!!!!!!!
Kathryn White
May 3 at 10:48 am | #14 | Link
Doesn’t the United States do more than it’s share in helping the world now? Why don’t we spend more in the USA for better infrastructure, education, transportation and yes…lower gas and food prices? What does the rest of the world do to help us? Where were they when Katrina hit? Where were they when the tornados hit? Where were they in the aftermath of 9/11? Yes, it is one big world but we need to take care of one big USA first!
Sherril
May 3 at 2:32 pm | #15 | Link
Dave, what I was trying to point out to everyone is
1st. President Bush dod not write the bill, Senator Obama did.
2. It was rapidly pushed throught the senate without the American people getting a wiff of it.
3. This is not a voluntary option.
4. BIG POINT BEING THAT AT THIS TIME OUR ECONOMY IS NOT EXACTLY WHAT WE WOULD LIKE AND TO HAVE OR EVEN THINK OF HAVING ANY ADDITIONAL TAXES WOULD BE UNREPAIRABLE IN OUR LIFE TIME.
5. I DO AGREE ABOUT ALL THE MONEY LOST IN IRAQ AND THE DAILY COST TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT. IT IS GONE. WE DO NOT HAVE TO COMPOUND THE PROBLEMS BY HAVING LEGISLATION THE CONTINUES TO GE THE BANK AWAY.
MomGrandma
May 3 at 8:50 pm | #16 | Link
It’s time to take care of the United States of America! U.S. US!!!
W.J. Malan
May 4 at 10:28 am | #17 | Link
Obama is at the leading edge of the welfare wing of the welfare-warfare party.
McCain is at the opposite end of the warfare-welfare party.
All candidates of the welfare-warfare and warfare welfare parties ignore Constitutional limits on power.
I propose a merger of the two wings to reflect reality. It will be called the “Same Old Party” (SOP).
The new mascot will be a combination of the donkey and the elephant: A fat half-ass.
The American people want an end to the costly and dangerous state of permanent war, and self-perpetuating transfer programs that will bankrupt our children.
W.J. Malan
Author, “The Audacity of Truth”
emery tallon
May 5 at 10:41 am | #18 | Link
doesnt anyone realize that we have spent almost ten trillion in five years? more american tax dollars go to fund president bushs party in the middle east than to anywhere else. get your heads out of the grounds and read John 6:1-14
The Lost 60's Hippy
May 6 at 2:49 am | #19 | Link
So… is Osama Bin Laden still alive or did he retire already?
I didn’t know Osama wrote a bill? Kewl.
I thought he was a bad guy once.
USA First
May 6 at 3:00 am | #20 | Link
To “the lost 60s hippy idiot”
YOU MORON!
WAKE UP!
This bill means “our” money goes to people who do not live “here”. Less money for our troops over in Iraq. Less money means less bullets to use by our guys, means more bad guys living.
We are already wasting alot of money. Everytime we knock off some rag heads kid or wife we have to compensate them. Last time I checked we only pay about $4500 per person that we kill or slaughter. Uncle Sam pays good money to compensate them. If this bill gets passed that means LESS WE have to pay them, which means they will get slightly a little bit more pissed. Wouldn’t get pis#ed if you only got $2000 or less for your dead kid????? WAKE UP YOU MORON! Besides raqi wemen can always have more kids. That’s wat wemen do. America FIRST!
Embarassed USA Citizen
May 6 at 3:21 am | #21 | Link
In response to ‘USA FIRST’
I CAN’T BELIEVE YOU SAID THAT!
AND YOUR AMERICAN????
ARE YOU FOR REAL???
You’re almost as bad as some of the heartless people commenting here in regards to this. They say they feel bad and want to help people, but yet bicker and act so damn selfish and think only of themselves. What… $1 a day is too much to ask for from everyone??
You make me sick to be in the same country as you. America has a real chance to be a leader here once again and everybody is griping about hanging on to those nickels and dimes in their pocket? I’VE BEEN TO SOME OF THOSE PLACES!
If I had the financial resources and power to do some real humanitarian damage in eliminating this I WOULD IN A HEART BEAT. But I don’t. I’m a nobody. Instead I’m just a hypocrite like everyone else here. So just keep your pot belly happy ass planted in that lawn chair of yours, wave the stars and stripes and eat your subway and be merry.
Sherril
May 6 at 4:00 am | #22 | Link
WELL, WHEN YOU HOME HAS BEEN WIPED OUT BY A KATRINA, OR TORNADOS OR YOU THREATENED BY WILDFIRES OR FLOODS, WHO ARE YOU GOING TO CALL? IF YOU ARE SO INSENSETIVE TO THE NEEDS OF YOUR FELLOW AMERICIANS, SHAME ON YOU. HAUL YOU SELF DOWN TO NEW ORLEANS AND GET TO WORK. AND THERE IS NO NEED FOR UGLY LANUAGE. IT ONLY DENOTES A SMALL MIND.
Mother Maria
May 6 at 3:29 pm | #23 | Link
I believe that the main point here is how this legislation has been swiftly moved through the process without any public hearings. This is just like the amnesty bill last year. It is healthy to debate differences! However, if there are no hearings, then one can get the feeling that something is being hidden from us. I get a very unsettled feeling when ‘our elected leaders’ don’t want to debate to see what ‘the people’ they represent think about what they are doing. There are always two sides to every story, but the story should be told openly before the book is closed.
concerned
May 8 at 6:36 pm | #24 | Link
BEFORE ME, I HAVE TWO LISTS. ONE LIST CONTAINS THE NAMES OF COUNTRIES WHICH HAVE STOOD BY OUR SIDE DURING THE IRAC WAR. THIS LIST IS SHORT. THE UNITED KINGDOM, SPAIN, BULGARIA, AUSTRALIA, AND POLAND ARE SOME OF THE COUNTRIES LISTED THERE.
THE OTHER LIST CONTAINS EVERYONE THAT REFUSED TO HELP US IN THE CONFLECT, OR WITH ANY EMERGENCY WE FACE. INCLUDING NATURAL DISASTERS.LET ME SUGGEST, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATLY,FOREIN AID TO THOSE NATIONS ON LIST TWO CEASE INDFINITELY. THE MONEY SAVED DURING THE FIRST YEAR ALONE WILL PRETTY MUCH PAY THE COSTS OF THE IRACI WAR. THEN EVERY YEAR THERE AFTER GO TO OUR SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM SO IT WONT GO BROKE IN 20 YEARS.
NEED HELP WITH FAMINE? GET IT FIRST FROM YOUR CORRUPT GOVERNMENT LEADERS OR CALL FRANCE.
WE WILL HAVE A COUPLE THOUSAND TANKS AVAILABLE
TO GIVE FOR BORDER SECURITY, TO PREVENT MEXICOS CORRUPT GOVERNMENT, FROM SENDING THEIR PEOPLE HERE TO FATTEN THEIR PANTRIES WHILE THEY KILL AND INSLAVE THEIR PEOPLE. WE LOVE THE SPANISH PEOPLE,
THEY CAN’T HELP THEIR FAMILIES IN A COUNTRY THAT ONLY CARES ABOUT THE RICH.CHANGE YOUR COUNTRY THEN COME TO OURS FREELY.
TO THE NATIONS ON LIST 2 , A FINAL THOUGHT:
YOU MIGHT WANT TO LEARN TO SPEAK ARABIC.
God Bless!
Pollock
May 9 at 11:06 am | #25 | Link
1. Those of you who feel strongly that this should be done - that’s fine - do it on your own time and with your own $$. I don’t see a tax, something that I have no apparent say in given how it’s being rushed through, as being appropriate. I already give plenty of my time and hard earned $$ (that which the govt does not already appropriate) to those in need. That does not make me mean or callous - it makes me a realist.
2. The UN has shown its corruption and willingness of individuals within the organization to line their own pockets with $ designated to other means. Why on earth would we want to give them more $$ and assume they’ll be fiscally responsible?
3. If this is a democracy, for a tax that will be forced on all, those in favor of this OWE all of us a chance to debate and refine what they plan to put forth. I find the manner in which this is being ramrodded through to be very questionable. If we aren’t going to do so, we should abandon this so called democracy we have become and beg the crown to take us back…..
Dr. James White
May 10 at 10:52 am | #26 | Link
This bill is a tie in bill to the United Nations (U.N.) Millennium Declaration, General Assembly Resolution 55/2 (2000). Senate bill S.2433 diverts .7% of this nations GDP to a discretionary fund used by the U.N. to fund programs as outlined in Resolution 55/2. That estimate was $850 billion dollars over 13 years, in addition to the $300 billion that we are responsible for currently.
We need to remove the U.S. from partnership in the UN Millennium Declaration. Looking at the UN Millennium Declaration it becomes evident that this is a document that eliminates our national sovereignty and places the United States under what can only be seen as a Worldwide Communist Governmental structure. The seriousness of the efforts of the UN to gain global control of all nations on earth and specifically to gain control of the United States is shocking. That this effort has not been disclosed in the national media in any form is truly disturbing.
The United Nations appears to have “come out of the closet” on their Communistic aspirations of global control. We as a Sovereign free Republic need to be removed from the U.N. and end all payments to this Communist entity. Now is the time to end this ugly relationship before it is too late and the U.N. becomes too powerful to shrug off. For those who desire to continue this downward spiral into world Communism, feel free to pack up and head to any of the few Communist countries left on this planet. Being a Veteran I for one don’t want to live in your vision of eutopia and will once again, if need be, take up arms to fight to keep my nation free.
judy w
May 12 at 10:19 am | #27 | Link
Steve’s endorsement of the Obama Global Poverty Act (GPA)is just another reflection of what is wrong with America today. In reality here is what Steve is saying: The passage if the GPA is a good thing because it uses everyone else’s money to fund a another liberal give away program because it makes me (Steve) and my (his) liberal socialist inner self feel better and it gives me (them) something to talk about at the next wine sipping social. Steve also thinks that everyone who does not agree with his position should be labeled protectionist; which is another way of Steve saying that he thinks people who don’t agree with giving away hard earned money are a bunch of selfish self centered capitalists. Well I don’t buy that crap.
If you really want to help someone I say use the $845 billion dollars to shore up our social security system, funds of which are already being used to fund foreign aid; provide more food for the underpaid living in poverty in this country; help the unemployed in this country and and more importantly help the elderly people in this country who are being reduced to a subsistence level of living because of out of control government spending by liberals and other irresponsible legislators.
Finally, if you lwant to spend $845 Billion how about spending $845 billion to pay our soldiers, who are protecting this country, a decent living wage and the benefits they really deserve. Steve is among those same liberals who emphathize with spending more money for foreign aid but doen’t give a damn about Americans in this country that need and deserve the support of the American taxpayer. He rather tell you that you are incapable of seing the bigh picture and he is the only one capable of letting you know what the big picture is.
Sherril
May 13 at 3:25 pm | #28 | Link
Why can’t I find the original Bill introduced by Obama. It had all the US Code citations included. Now Thomas has only the revised bill available. The
US COdes is where the meat was.
Sherril
May 13 at 3:41 pm | #29 | Link
Senator Obama’s Poverty Bill passed the Senate and awaits the President’s signature. I have been doing some research on all of this and have come to the conclusion that the whole thing was a payoff. Here’s why.
Senator Obama in 2006 went to Kenya and made speeches about the corrupt government of Kenya, of behalf of Raila Odinga, who claims to be Obama’s cousin. Odinga organized an opposition party to run for presiden to Kenya. Kenyans officials became very upset and denounced Obama. Odinga came to the US in Sept. 0f 2007 and campaigned Kenyan residents in the US.
After Odinga lost the election in Dec. 2007, there was chaos and rioting in Kenya. Obama took time from his hectic campaign schedule to continually call Odinga about this. The new elected Kenyan officials seemed to avoid calla from Obama.
Finally, some progress was made to install Odinga as Prime Minister of Kenya. I think that Obama had to give the bank in the from of Global Povery Act to get this accomplished. Now we will be the ones to pay.
concerned
May 14 at 6:40 pm | #30 | Link
i regress,
i am having second thoughts about my view.
i should not feel unloving to the people of the world that need our help.
i simply become frustrated when we are thought of as uncaring when the governments of the countries we help take from the needy. the people need to take back their countries, and use the help to rebuild. and if they see we are having problems at least let us know they are thinking or praying for us. just good old manners of love!
concerned
May 15 at 8:47 pm | #31 | Link
i regress,
i do not want to keep help from the less fortunate people of the world, there are some people here that need help. so let us help our people and then help the world.
we can give to others if we are all on the same level.
mike
May 15 at 11:13 pm | #32 | Link
Hey to all, I’d like to say first, it was once said that if you would like to take a free country, and make it a socialistic one, you must distract it’s people. 90% of Americans couldn’t even tell you who the last 4 Presidents were, let alone what the UN has planed for you and I, and the rest of the people of the world. Most don’t even understand what the UN is. But I promise you, 90% of americans could tell you the last 4 winners of American Idol, the last 4 winners of the Superbowl, and don’t let me leave out the last 4 winners of Servivor.
So if you can see that we the people are being distracted and we don’t even see it. The UN is a system designed to control the world.
So if we the people send by and watch TV and not our law makers, they will help the one controling the system of the UN the bring all under it’s control. The UN in it’s Millennuim Declaration promise to bring us the people of the world 1000 years of peace, if it’s Chartor, and Declaration are fullfilled by all it’s membering countries, all 192 of them.
It seems to me that the UN is tring to be our god,
taking the place of GOD. GOD, the one of heaven and earth, has also promise 1000 years of peace, if we have faith in Christ Jesus. Jesus will bring that peace, upon his return.
World Government is prophesied in the Bible (REV chapter 13) Read it, it also Talks about a system of control by which no can by are sell, unless having a mark, it’s fun to see that 187 countries of the 192 have implemented laws, like the US REAL ID ACT signed into law May 11,2005 and is now impelmented as of May 11, 2008, this REAL ID ACT will become the law, which will be used to control us from buying or selling.
If you research this law, and others like the Imagration Bill that didn’t pass, but is being rewritten as we speak, with verbage saying, and I paraphrase, you will not be able to hold a job, get a checking account, broad a plan, or enter any fed building. NO JOB NO MONEY = no buying or sell with out it, kinda sounds close to Chapter 13 of Rev.
So you see we must pray, and give our lives over into the hands of CHRIST JESUS not our government or the UN.
Sherril
May 16 at 1:35 am | #33 | Link
UPDATE ON THIS. THE SENATE MADE SOME CHANGES TO THE WORDING OF THIS BILL AND NOW IT HAS TO BE SENT BACK TO THE HOUSE FOR RATIFICATION. THERE IS A SMALL WINDOW OF TIME TO CONTACT YOUR US REPRESENTATIVE TO VOTE NO ON THIS. PLEASE LOOK FOR THEIR E-MAIL ADDRESSES AND SEND THEM A LETTER BEFORE IT IS TO LATE. ASK THEM TO TABLE THIS OR LET IT DIE IN COMMITTEE OR VOTE NO.
Barack Obama BILL
Senator Barack Obama has said that he is a friend of gun owners. Not so according to his legislative record. He has introduced the Global Poverty Act of 2007. It sounds good. When you start looking at the total package all tied up in bright red ribbon you will see that it is farce.
It is all tied up bright red ribbon with the UNITED NATIONS MILLENNIUM DEVELOPMENT GOALS, General Resolution 55/2 (2000). In 2000, the United States joined more than 180 countries at the United Nations Millennium Summit and vowed to reduce global poverty by 2015. It requires the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.
This all sounds very good, kind and compassionate.
But let’s take it a step further and really look at the guts of this. The United Nations says that “The commitment to provide 0.7% of gross national product (GNP) as official development assistance was first made 35 years ago in a General Assembly resolution, but it has been reaffirmed repeatedly over the years, including at the 2002 global Financing for Development conference in Monterrey, Mexico, which President Bush attended. However, in 2004, total aid from the industrialized countries totaled just $78.6 billion-or about 0.25% of their collective Gross National Product.” The Global Poverty Act adds little value but could mistakenly convey implicit United States support for the broader range of statistic economics in fashion at the United Nations, chief of which is that developed countries should provide 0.7 percent of their gross domestic product annually to developing countries. Such a commitment would require U.S. taxpayers to fund foreign aid at more than quadruple current levels, at an amount of $100 billion per year. There is little, if any evidence, that such a sum is necessary would really encourage any development.
Further research can be found at :The Global Poverty Act: The Wrong Track for U.S. Aid Policy (http://www.heritage.org)
Article by Ambassador Terry Miller and Brett D. Schaefer
In addition to seeking to eradicate poverty, the declaration commits nations to banning “small arms and light weapons” (for full text) http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration/ares552e.htm
9. We resolve therefore:
• To strengthen respect for the rule of law in international as in national affairs and, in particular, to ensure compliance by Member States with the decisions of the International Court of Justice, in compliance with the Charter of the United Nations, in cases to which they are parties.
• To ensure the implementation, by States Parties, of treaties in areas such as arms control and disarmament and of international humanitarian law and human rights law, and call upon all States to consider signing and ratifying the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court.
• To take concerted action to end illicit traffic in small arms and light weapons, especially by making arms transfers more transparent and supporting regional disarmament measures, taking account of all the recommendations of the forthcoming United Nations Conference on Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons.
and ratifying a series of treaties, including the INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT TREATY, http://untreaty.un.org/cod/icc/index.html (for full text)
the Kyoto Protocol (global warming treaty), the Convention on Biological Diversity, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, and the Convention on the Rights of the Child. One treaty that was not mentioned, but is included, is the UNITED NATIONS LAW OF THE SEA TREATY. http://www.un.org/Depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unclos/part1.htm
We have dealt with the International Criminal Court Treaty before and found that it would not benefit the people of the United States. It would give the Court the right to try our soldiers as war criminals.
Maybe Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi and her family would be tried there for their crimes of war. President Bush has said that he would not support the idea of a World Court.
This Senate Bill 2433 was passed out of the Senate back to the House for ratification. Please send your Representative a letter telling them not to ratify this bill.
The Global Poverty Act is the wrong track for U.S. Aid Policy.
The Senate Foreign Relations Committee held no hearings on the Obama bill.
Gordon Lawless
May 16 at 6:08 pm | #34 | Link
I AM VERY CONCERNED OVER OBAMA’S GLOBAL TAX PROPOSAL. IT WILL CAUSE AMERICANS TO LOOSE MONEY THROUGH PASSING THESE FUNDS TO OTHER COUNTRIES.LET THOSE COUNTRIES SUPPLY FUNDS TO THEIR OWN PEOPLE.
concerned
May 19 at 5:05 pm | #35 | Link
thank you sherril and especially mike,
you have put the whole thing in front and there
is now concrete wording and the feelings i have for Jesus. i only knew it was wrong.
now i know why. please help educate me with the tools
i need to make the right vote in november.
i don’t like any of them, mcain is pro choice and that bothers me.
Sherril
May 19 at 11:14 pm | #36 | Link
Concerned: The best way to get educated is to read. Next decide what issues are important to you. Learn about the candidates. You can go to Thomas.gov to see what bills they have voted on and what bills they have introduced for possible new laws. If they do not fit what you believe then you do not vote for them. Listen to the way they talk and the things they say. Are the things they same the same as they have voted? Are their issues you issues? Then you will have a pretty go basis to determine who your beat candidate will be. Good luck.
Sherril
May 19 at 11:24 pm | #37 | Link
To e-mail the President of the United States with comments on you thoughts, please be nice. To the Honorable George W. Bush, President of the United States; Sir, etc. Then send it to comments at the whitehouse.gov Whitehouse switchboard # is 7-202-456-1414. Clerk of the House of Representatives is 1-202-554-4672, then ask for your representative.
Bobby Lee Nicholson
May 20 at 12:06 am | #38 | Link
Hello!!! Everyone, I think we will be in Big Trouble if Obama gets elected to be our President. Obama has been saying in all his speeches that he will do this or that the First year in office that it will be done. The first year in office there will be a lot of things going on and there is no way Obama can change every thing. It has never been done in the past what makes him think that he can do it NOW ? I would much rather see Hillary in office. It has nothing to do with race. I think that Hillary would be a better President.
I will vote the best way I know is right out of the three that are running for President.
Thanks for giving me the chance to voice my opinon.
Have a Great Day,
Bobby
Steve C.
May 22 at 12:31 pm | #39 | Link
judy W - You, are clearly a fucking idiot. I do not put words into your mouth, so don’t dare do the same to someone you have never met. It is your neo-conservative attitude that has put this country in the position we are in today. There is an old saying that goes something like “you can’t see the forest through the trees”. Well, Judy W, I’m not even sure you see the trees (problems) that our country is facing. As a matter of fact, your ridiculous right wing statements are short-sighted and not worth any more of my time.
Sherril
May 22 at 10:40 pm | #40 | Link
To Steve C. I’m not exactly sure how your or why your response was sent to me but I’m not Judy W. And I would like to tell you that your lanuage is just more than uncalled for. That only denotes a small vocabuluary and and even small mind. When you do respond to a post please make sure that it directed to the correct perons. AND CLEAN UP THE MOUTH.
Redom
May 24 at 10:54 pm | #41 | Link
Good discussion from Sherril, Dave D and Dr. White, Mike and others. Thanks Judy W!!! Way to smack face.
All I have to say is:
The USA is becoming more in line to the globalist/UN control via outspoken or closet globalist/communist politicians that want to level the US. The Bushs the Clintons and most senior Senators and the entire upper levels of US government and Federal Reserve bank are actively seeking World Government for their own future aggrandizement in the bankers NWO. They seek power and profit at the expense of the US citizen. They create constant wars, conflicts and destruction to achieve a one world government and then provide solutions at our expense and loss of freedoms. The US is controlled/manipulated by war-mongering banking globalists either in the forefront or behind the scenes. They control the politicians.
Quotes:
“Some even believe we (the Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
- David Rockefeller, Memoirs, page 405
“We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order.”
- David Rockefeller
“In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn’t such a great idea after all.”
- Strobe Talbot, President Clinton’s Deputy Secretary of State, Time Magazine, July 20th, l992
“We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years… It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.”
- David Rockefeller, Bilderberg Meeting, June 1991 Baden, Germany
Jack
May 30 at 3:57 pm | #42 | Link
Are some of you retarded? He is trying to steal from our wallets. He thinks he is Robin hood. Giving money to the U.N. does not stop poverty. It lines pockets. That is more than likely why they rushed this bill through. you have to remember, politicians see green not black, white, brown,or yellow.
Jack
May 30 at 4:03 pm | #43 | Link
To Sherril,
Katrina was not special. People all over the world and across time have had to deal with bad weather. It is up to those affected to rebuild there home. I am not saying no one can help. Generosity is a wonderful thing but, we should not be forced to help. We should be given the option.
Sherril
May 31 at 1:50 am | #44 | Link
Jack, I fully agree with you about helping othersof our own choice. That is exactly the point. OF OUR CHOICE. Being forced to give, donate, or taxed for the causes of the United Nations is not a free choice under the Global Poverty Act of 2007. In fact some of the help we provide other countries is not always a very good choice made by leaders. At the moment I believe that Kenya should be put on the watch list because of all the killings there in the past 5 months. Just the other day I read in my newspaper about the 330 men running around western Kenya killing what the called witches and wizard. This is in addition to all the killings and people that were displaced during the recent elections.
And now Obama wants Saouth africa to be removed from the watch list. Again, much violence is going on there and they should not be removed from the watch list. Aid should be cut for these countries.
Pat
May 31 at 9:49 pm | #45 | Link
Anyone who thinks congress will protect us is dreaming.
Congress only worries about protecting itself for re-election.
We can’t eliminate poverty in the US and we are supposed to be able to do it for the whole world. Who is smoking pot?
Handing out money does not end poverty. It will increase the daily dollar amount from $1 to $2 or more but the cost of everything will go up so there will no improvement.
Income is not the issue. The important things are freedom of religion, health care, education, food supply, etc.
mike
June 1 at 6:39 pm | #46 | Link
Hi to all, once again here we are the few who choose to be informed, like my earlier comments about being distracted; I’m glad to see that you all and I choose to speak out, and speak up.
Now back to the Global Tax the is being proposed here, I want to say, it wouldn’t matter who it was that was offering up this bill, if it were demarcate or republican or bi-party.. IT IS ANTI-AMERICAN. We give BILLIONS as it is now, so don’t be deceived this a WORLD AGENDA. We can’t even control what the USA does with our money, what makes you think the UN will do the right thing it. It is all just the way they can get us into the system with out us knowing.
I say this in a words of the world. If I were to state the same thing from a Biblical World view it makes much clearer seance. The Bible predicts many things that will bring an end to this age of human government. Which is known as the “Second Coming.”
Now there are 9 specific prophecies that will be fulfilled in the last seven years of the age of human government. People may laugh or dismiss the word Armageddon, but I believe that those who’s minds, and hearts are open, will see these 9 things, and think differently about the God they say they believe in, or those that don’t even know the God of the universe, and may begin to seek him stronger, or begin the relationship with the One who has saved those who believe(Romans 10:9 John 3:16)
1 The final seven years will begin, when the Antichrist and the international community give their support to Israel’s right to exist(Daniel 9:27,) in the land promised to Abraham by GOD(the Abrahamic Covenant, Genesis 15:18)Final borders are being discussed as we speak (see Annapolis Peace Conference.)
2 A war will start in area of the Euphrates River which will lead to the killing of 2 Billion people. We have 170000 Troops a long that River as we speak.(Rev 9:13-16) Just so happened 4 PLANES were used that started this war we’re in now!
3 The West Bank(JUDEA)will become a place of Great Tribulation(Matthew 24:15-21)There is a wall being built now to separate Judea from Israel, Olmert said he will withdraw from that area, leaving to Jews that stay at the mercy of the Palestinians.
4 The Temple Mount in Jerusalem will be placed under a sharing arrangement between Jew and Gentile. (Rev 11:1-2) Issues again being discuss in the APC. (Annapolis Peace Conference)
5 The Jewish Temple will be built on the Temple Mount(Rev 11:1-2 & 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4) Everything need for the Jews to begin Temple Worship again is complete.(Furniture and other things needed for sacrificing.) In June of 05 the Jewish Sanhedrin announced they we’re proceeding with pre-fabing of the Temple, Off-sight of the Temple Mount.
6 The Temple Mount will be placed under the supervision of the world community, a leader from that community will then rise to power, stand in the Temple, Claiming to be GOD. ( 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4) It has been proposed that the UN Control by Prime Minister of Israel Ehud Barak (in the year 2000)
7 a World Government will Dominate the world the last 3 1/2 years prior to the battle of Armageddon
( Daniel 7:23& Rev 13:7) With words and organization like:
INTERNATIONAL LAW
WORLD BANK
INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY
WORLD TRADE ORGANIZATION
WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION
INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT
WORLD POLICE= INTERPOL
And also words like the one this forum is about
“Global Poverty Act”
8 Each person will be required to have a number or a mark in order to buy and sell( Rev 13:16-18)
REAL ID ACT of May 11, 2005 requires each American to have a REAL ID, or a NATIONAL ID CARD.
Laws are being brought before law makers to make it impossible to get a job in the USA or open a checking account or board a plane, and many other things of this nature, without this card ALL UNDER THE NAME OF PEACE AND SAFETY, As the DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY will put it. AND don’t for a minute think we’re the only country doing this, 187 countries out of the 192 have passed laws, or have laws in place to do the same thing. WOW If you can’t get a job, or open a checking account, no money, no job, NO BUYING OR SELL.
9 Then nation of Iran has repeatedly stated that Israel will be wiped off the Global Map. Tensions are get higher between Israel and Iran over the inflammatory words spoken by Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad( this is also the man who believes he is the man who will usher in the 12th Imam, the Muslin Messiah. Iran is now a close friend to Russia, these to countries have form many alliances, Militarily be the most prevalent.
Zechariah 14:2-4 talks about bringing all nations down on Jerusalem. Ezekiel 38 & 39 discuss an alliance between many countries (Meshech- is the root word for Moscovi or Moscow. Persia is modern day Iran.
So as you can see, if your eyes, hears and hearts are open to Truth, that not only are we close to the End time, but we are smack dab in the middle of it.
Or you can throw it all up to one big coincidence.
Jesus Christ Died for all of those who would believe in him, if you don’t believe, I see that in the days we live you may want to consider what He did for You and I, and open your heart to Him NOW.
I pray for this Wonderful Nation we live the United States Of America, One Nation under GOD(remember), and I also pray for you, and I, GOD be with us.
Darin
June 2 at 9:13 am | #47 | Link
Steve C - Get a clue you ignorant bleeding heart! You pay for this BS piece of feel good screw the taxpayer legislation. Can you say - “Boston Tea Party”? GET A CLUE!!!!!
You are probably collecting SS, Welfare, or some other BS Socialist Program income. I’m sick of giving all my hard earned dollars to you fruitcakes!
Charles
June 3 at 4:25 pm | #48 | Link
Steve C. just wanted to comment about your comment on the 2nd Amendment. You say you’re not sure about it granting the individual the right to own firearms, well just look up what the framers of the constitution said about it.
“The said Constitution [shall] be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press, or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms.”
Samuel Adams of Massachusetts—U.S. Constitution ratification convention, 1788
“Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion, for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense.”
John Adams (1735-1826) Founding Father, 2nd US President
“A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.”
George Washington
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I don’t know about you but I think it’s pretty clear what some of the most important people in our country’s history had to think about the individual being armed.
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June 4 at 2:03 am | #49 | Link
Government officials have personal agendas to benefit themselves. I am 22 years old, and have seen this and learned this myself. Representatives and Senators DO NOT listen to their constituents and what we want or think. It almost makes me sad to think that we have NO say in what happens to us. We are the ones that see the big picture, and the officials are the ones looking through some obscured lens of self interest. I am generally quiet about this, but I am noticing movement towards a world governing body…which is NOT good for anyone, and is tremendously scary to think about.
I completely disagree with this “Obama” Bill, but also somewhat support Obama. I have heard about this bill and have found it to be disgusting from the start. The US used to be the power behind the UN, and now the UN is falling apart. We, the US, needs to pull away from the UN and move in another direction. I do not know what that direction is, but we DO NOT need to be giving a soon to be world governing body control over our country, especially and non-US governing body of officials the power to impose taxes on us! I’ve heard some pretty stupid, down right ignorant things in my short life, but this tops all. And it worries me to think that this bill is close to being passed into law.
The American people have lost control OF their government and have lost voice IN their government. But, what are we to do about it?
I somewhat fear that Obama will only open us up for grabs, financially, and make us a vulnerable nation, but I also fear that McCain will lead us into many battle we cannot afford to be in, win, nor benefit the interest of the United States of America and its Citizens. I pray people open their eyes, and view the whole picture as it is and begin to speak up.
God Bless the USA, and all His children.
concerned
June 4 at 4:21 pm | #50 | Link
make your voices heard on this bill and on the fair tax. the town hall meetings will be rigged as well. so what will the best forum be?
i have written my representives, but don’t feel they will be impressed with my oppinion.
help!
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June 6 at 9:48 pm | #51 | Link
The author clearly did not read the bill. It only requires that the president create a plan to decrease global poverty. It does not require a certain amount of spending or say what the plan must be. You can read the bill here, directly from the Library of Congress. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c110:2:./temp/~c110MzIvKB
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June 7 at 2:53 am | #52 | Link
Emily, I tried to use your link and it does not work. Please remember when you read any bill you have to include the USC Codes that are cited in the context of the bill. This is the true intent of the Senate when you read the citations, along with the bill.
And was your bill the rewritten version or the original? There were changes made in committee.
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June 8 at 8:24 am | #53 | Link
You are a slave as soon as you believe it. You have no Constitutional protections when you think you, your children and your neighbors don’t. Federal Reserve Notes (Bills of Credit) are prohibited by law, the National Debt is created by an illegal monetary system, if we realized the corruption caused by that single corporate monopoly we would work to return the creation of wealth into the hands of the people who generate it.
Amendment II does in FACT mean the individual’s right to keep and bare arms. The Federal Government knows it. Remember the media is not required to tell the American people the truth. The Magna Carta, Jefferson’s Notes on the State of Virginia and the Federalist Papers all provide weight to the original intent of the language.
Magna Carta (1215) provided in part (Chapters 60 & 61, Magna Carta Commission Translation, 1964)
Alexander Hamilton (Federalist Paper No. 29)
James Madison (Federalist Paper No. 46)
It is not a matter of Poverty, a few bucks is not too much to pay, although might does not make right and charity looses its goodwill when it becomes theft. The Government middleman is prone to absorb and redirect funds. I’m not talking about individual people; it is just the nature of surplus.
The Monstrous PROBLEM is a government shedding the United States Constitution for the United Nations Charter!!!! The majority of the House of Representatives and the Senate are fundamentally changing our system of Government.
US Constitution Article VI (2) The Constitution, and the Laws of the United State which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the Supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
There is undeniable evidence in court cases to show that the ratification of [U.N. resolutions inconsistent with Constitution] was, and is, illegal! In Miranda vs. Arizona (384 U.S. 43B p.491), the Court ruled, “where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them.”
In Marbury vs. Madison (5 U.S. 2 CRANCH 137, 174, 176, I803), we find that “all laws repugnant to the Constitution are null and void.”
In Reid vs. Covert, 354 U.S. 1, 1956, the U.S. Supreme Court said, “This court has regularly and uniformly recognized the supremacy of the Constitution over a treaty.”
DONT GET TOO COMFORTABLE
The President has been using executive orders to make international agreements. These agreements and protocols give the Executive Branch absolute power. Without the obligation of Congressional oversight and no need for a 2/3 majority vote. Every United Nation Agreement, Protocol and/or Partnerships has become the second highest law of the land.
In Sei Fujii vs. California, the court declared that “The Charter (of the United Nations) has become the Supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.”
This is not the legal precedent I want to set. This is treason.
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June 8 at 8:05 pm | #54 | Link
Oregonbean you hit the nail on the head. Our government is changing and not for the better.
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June 11 at 1:18 pm | #55 | Link
This Global Poverty Plan is Obama’s plan to bankrupt America. It will be a distribution of America’s wealth to the U.N. (845 Billion dollars) to be give out to anyone the U.N. chooses, even countries hostile to the U.S. It will also abolish our 2nd Admenment rights. Obama wants to turn the USA into a poor third-world country. He is all for Africa and Muslims.
He will be America’s Hitler, and destroy us, just as Hitler destroyed Germany. BEWARE!!!
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June 14 at 5:49 pm | #56 | Link
Dump the DNC.
Write in Hillary
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June 22 at 2:30 pm | #57 | Link
until the guvment is afraid of the reaction of the people things will never change. bush wanted war. who was there to stop him?(checks and balances?) the congress apparently should have, but didn’t have the intestinal fortitude.(guts)so the congress was afraid of the “bumbling idiot”? None of this will be a problem for the U.S until the blue helmets are coming down the street. Glad I’ve learned from video games. Beans and guns, baby, beans and guns.
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June 27 at 10:28 am | #58 | Link
Hey to All,
Again, with Obama and all the rederic behind this bill, he says we should care about the Innocent people who can’t take care of or help themselves. IF THIS ISN’T THE GREATEST EXAMPLE OF DOUBLE SPEAK, I don’t know what is. With this bill he wants to help the Innocent,...But in every bill to PROTECT life of the indecent HERE IN THE US, He voted AGAINST IT.
I guess in his eyes, Killing innocent unborn babies is OK,
But we must be GOOD people and help people in other countries, who have their own governments there to do so
Sounds like a true Politician!!!
Jude 1:23
but others save with fear, pulling them out of the FIRE, hating even the garment defiled by the flesh.
mike
June 27 at 10:30 am | #59 | Link
Hey to All,
sp ( wasn’t meant to be indecent but INNOCENT
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July 13 at 10:06 pm | #60 | Link
Oregonbean above on June 8 totally misquoted SEI FUJII, Appellant, v. THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. Oregonbean used the inaccurate quote to justify the argument that the U.N. is supposedly taking over the U.S. government and that we are letting it. The Supreme Court decision he cites as complicit, however, says nothing of the sort.
Here is the actual quote from what Oregonbean twisted to fit his/her own argument:
It is not disputed that the charter is a treaty, and our federal Constitution provides that treaties made under the authority of the United States are part the supreme law of the land and that the judges in every state are bound thereby. (U.S. Const., art. VI) A treaty, however, does not automatically supersede local laws which are inconsistent with it unless the treaty provisions are self-executing. (http://www.kentlaw.edu/faculty/bbrown/classes/IntlLawFall2007/CourseDocs/SeiFujivCalifornia.doc(
The U.N. Charter was determined to not be self-executing. Thus, further legislative action would be needed to execute any U.N. aims. In other words, it’s not as if the U.N. can pass a resolution, and the resolution suddenly becomes law in the U.S.
I’m a huge fan of watching our elected officials, instead of watching TV. But let’s get our facts straight please.
Paul
July 27 at 3:25 pm | #61 | Link
It bothers me most that a bill like this is not publicized as it should have been. What was happening in February that was more important? Most people were probably more concerned about Paris Hilton or Bitney Spears. What I can understand about this bill is that it only provides for more spending putting the responsibility on the President of the U.S. to implement and succeed by 2015. I took this from an article posted back in February: Declares it official U.S. policy to promote the reduction of global
poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the
Achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of cutting extreme
Global poverty in half by 2015.
• Requires the President to develop and implement a comprehensive
strategy to carry out that policy.
• Includes guidelines for what the strategy should include - from aid,
trade, and debt relief, to working with the international community,
businesses and NGOs, to ensuring environmental sustainability.
• Requires that the President’s strategy include specific and
Measurable goals, efforts to be undertaken, benchmarks, and
Timetables.
• Requires the President to report back to Congress on progress
made in the implementation of the global poverty strategy.
Global poverty is terrible, but is it our responsibility as US citizens to “fix the world?” We are already doing more than our share and I don’t see passing a bill declaring it our responsibility is in our best interests as a country at this time.
Overpopulation in most of these countries is the main problem. Maybe our efforts would be better to control that.
I do not believe it is the United States responsibility to take on world hunger. I believe we are losing our status as the richest and most thriving nation in the world and need to concentrate on our own infrastructure and economy assuring our own citizens security in those regards. I am not willing to apologize to the rest of the world if our standard of living might be better than some parts of the world and need to agree with several other posted comments that we as a country already shoulder enough burdens helping the rest of the world. I need to oppose any bill that proposes demands for more.
NH
July 27 at 5:27 pm | #62 | Link
I want to know which Republican quislings voted for this in the HOUSE? I have already written to my reps and told them they BETTER NOT!
Hillary, McCain, all are the same. They would do no better in moving us toward being under UN-rule. Get a clue won’t you Dr. Bobbi Ann White? Sheesh!!!!!!!!
NH
July 27 at 5:31 pm | #63 | Link
Robert how do you blame BUSH for something OBAMA did?
Bush is not responsible for all your Democrat traitorous doings you know? Get a clue please.
Cheri
July 29 at 9:23 pm | #64 | Link
Folks, really now. Cliff Kincaid has a grievance against the United Nations—he fears them, which is a joke given how ineffectual they are. Kincaid is at his hysterical fever-pitch best with this article. He is a drama queen.
This Global Poverty Act is little more than an attempt to provide order to the chaos of our foreign aid spending. It calls for a plan and progress reports. By itself, it is estimated to cost less than one million dollars. See the estimate by the Congressional Budget Office at this link:
http://www.cbo.gov/cedirect.cfm?bill=s2433≅=110
And chill out.
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July 30 at 3:25 pm | #66 | Link
How can American citizens react to something that they’re not even aware of? And for that matter how will they become aware of anything that the mainstream media doesn’t want them to be aware of? As far as I’m concerned the propaganda along with the lack of crucial information that the average citizen is exposed to borders on the criminal.
Paul
July 30 at 4:04 pm | #67 | Link
The actual law being slid through Congress seems innocent enough, actual dollars proposed may seem insignificant to some, but what effect will this law actually have? Ending world hunger and poverty seems too ambitious to me and placing law demanding the President to implement it is where the bill will cost significant dollars. Using the ploy that it is all for “innocent children” make it something hard to argue and that argument will get more difficult once things are in motion. We also have to realize that like all other law, once something is made into law, that law is going to be more difficult to rescind than it was to make. If the goal is to end world hunger, we need to focus on much smaller goals that will combine and ultimately achieve the overwhelming goal of feeding the poor and ending poverty. Obama is still a relatively young man with great ambition, but it seems irresponsible pushing this bill because of great aspirations to save the world.
ThinkForYourself
July 31 at 3:18 pm | #68 | Link
Obama isn’t going to bring any real change. He will manipulate us into thinking that he is working for us and the common people. American Presidents are all elites with bloodlines that trace to English royalty. They are not working for us, they are enslaving us, and we are loving and embracing every minute of it. We are being brainwashed by our politicians and corporations with advertisements and media. WORK, BUY, CONSUME, DIE. We are all sheep walking one in front of the other, not caring where the sheep in front of us is going, and being content, no questions.
Thank you Patriot Act for protecting us against terrorists, or should I say the CIA. The American people aren’t allowed to know who’s in it, how many people are in it, and most importantly how much government spending goes toward the CIA. Trillions of dollars are missing from the government…hmm.. There is spending on secret projects on military weapons that are far more advanced than you could ever imagine. There is also weather modification programs being tested and built that can cause artificial drastic weather conditions. People, the government will stage things, blame it on a helpless country, and you will give them your civil liberties. Our passports are chipped, there are cameras on most traffic lights, our phones can be tapped at any time, we could go to prison for the rest of our lives without being charged.. We are slaves.
A government is an idea, and it CAN change, but we need a whole new system, not a man related to Dick Cheney. THINK..“By changing what and how you know, you change the actual world around you”.
infowars.com and freemanarchives.com and do your own research!!! Read a book or two!
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http://www.cbo.gov/cedirect.cfm?bill=s2433≅=110
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August 24 at 1:28 am | #156 | Link
Love is that splendid triggering of human vitality… the supreme activity which nature affords anyone for going out of himself toward someone else.
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August 24 at 5:17 am | #157 | Link
Anger is never without Reason, but seldom with a good One.
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August 24 at 5:21 am | #158 | Link
Is love supposed to last throughout all time, or is it like trains changing at random stops. If I loved her, how could I leave her? If I felt that way then, how come I don’t feel anything now?
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August 28 at 12:15 am | #164 | Link
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Nothing is said that has not been said before.
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