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Wednesday, August 15, 2012

FROM A FRIEND ON THE DHS AMMO BUYS

I wanted to put the ammo purchase in perspective. If we can get a reliable number of rounds purchased for “domestic consumption” we can divide by 25, 000 to get a lowball estimate of the kill rate. A quick calculation yields a minimum of 18,000 civilian deaths.

This does not factor differences due to modern weapons or increased mortality due to use of internationally outlawed fragmentation rounds, which ensure death for most chest wounds, and substantially increase death for the majority of otherwise treatable extremity wounds.


Historic estimates indicate only 16%, or approximately 1/6th, of WWI and WWII infantry soldiers actually fired at the enemy in combat.

WWII combat-ready triage units achieved a maximum of 50% survival rates. These units were trained and provisioned. We wouldn’t have this for civilians shot in the confrontation. Worse, the use of frag rounds can’t be properly factored. Without doubt, the infection will kill more than the initial injury.

Personally, I believe this estimate would be unreliably low for other unquantifiable reasons... The shooters would not be military, but civilian, and not constrained by Geneva Conventions or the constitutional, as I called to discuss earlier today. They would not be required to render aid and assistance. They would not be unreasonably mandated to minimize collateral damage, as our soldiers are in Afghanistan. It would be acceptable under their orders of operation to kill children and women. They are not professional soldiers conditioned to find killing deplorable and to operate under limited rules of engagement, mindful of legal repercussions. They come from a narcissist, video-game generation and are psychologically conditioned to ignore moral constraints against killing and murder. Furthermore, they have been exposed to blood and gore on a daily basis with television, internet, and other sources—further reducing their hesitation or reluctance—which remains a primary goal of basic training. Finally, given the immoral climate and degraded cultural situation, many consider killing a badge of honor and consider notches in the gun a status symbol.
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An estimated 70 million died. So you figure multiply that by anywhere from 10 to 100. and you have anywhere between 70,000,000 and 700,000,000 rounds. I think it is a number that cannot be even estimated because you also need to take into account rounds fired from aircraft and naval ships.


In a report by Colonel Hays Park to the USMC, he quotes statistics from the US military records regarding the consumption of ammunition in recent wars.

"In World War II, the United States and its allies expended 25,000 rounds of ammunition to kill a single enemy soldier. In the Korean War, the ammunition expenditure had increased four fold to 100,00 rounds per soldier. In the Vietnam War, that figure had doubled to 200,000 rounds of ammunition for the death of a single enemy soldier."

The above was extracted from the book: "Snipers" by Craig Cabell and Richard Brown.
John Blake Publishing;
London 2005.
ISBN 1 84454 131 2

Indicates about 42, 000, 000 killed, all sources, European Theater.

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